Should We Sit Down with HSUS in Common Cause

Ag Sec VilsackMany eyebrows were raised during Sec. of Agriculture Tom Vilsack’s speech at the AFBF convention yesterday. It was really a stand out moment in an otherwise pretty good speech and I wonder what you think about it. The photo is from his press conference following the closing session.

Sec. Vilsack was talking about creating strategic alliances and reaching out to groups that we may not agree with. He used several examples. But this is the one that stood out.

And frankly those who are engaged in constructive engagement They shouldn’t be faulted for doing so. Now I know that there are not too many fans of the Humane Society in this room. But egg producers thought it was in their best interest to avoid fifty different referendums, fifty different sets of rules. So they sat down with folks and they reached common ground. After all, isn’t that what we’re asking our Congress to do? Isn’t that what we’re asking our political leaders to do? To sit down and make common cause? I think the egg producers have the right idea. Now, the issues may be different for different types of producers. But we need to be constructively engaged at all times and conversations. We may not find agreement. But I think we will substantially reduce those who oppose farming and substantially reduce the reach of those and hopefully be able to get enough proactive activity that results in a five year bill.

I can’t agree with him on this. My reason is that when it comes to an organization like the HSUS which has a well known desire to end animal agriculture there is no “common cause.” I see efforts to do so as admitting defeat and just hoping to buy some time before losing the game. And we’re not talking about a game. We’re talking about people’s livelihoods and one of the most promising and productive sources of food to feed a growing population.

So, what do you think Sec. Vilsack meant by using this example and stating that he thought it was a good idea? Is it a portent of things to come? Should we expect to see our USDA sitting down with HSUS in common cause?

You can listen to Sec. Vilsack’s remark here: Sec. Vilsack Remark on HSUS

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56 thoughts on “Should We Sit Down with HSUS in Common Cause

  1. I am the Colorado director for The HSUS and coordinate our agriculture council for Colorado. I am deeply interested in agriculture and proud to work toward reasonable protections for farm animals in addition to dogs and cats. I am not, nor is The HSUS, against all animal agriculture. In fact- restoring humane, sustainable agriculture and putting more farmers and ranchers back on the land (i.e. reducing the human suffering in rural America) is a deeply-held core value for me and many others at The HSUS. I appreciate the comment that anti-hsus sentiments by some in agriculture are a reaction to perceived wrongs. I feel the exact same way. Our campaigns are reactions to trends in agriculture that have simply gone too far. I understand the lack of trust some in agriculture feel for The HSUS and I know that distrust runs both ways- it is difficult for any of us to overcome it. I look forward to a day when agriculture is broadly seen as two sides of the same coin. Farmers and Ranchers are critical to our lives and our security as a nation. And I hope you’ll consider the reality that consumers are important too. The freedoms of this country are granted to all of us. We all get a chance to participate and fight for our values through legal venues. I can’t think of a better use of our donor dollars than to advocate for public policy that protects farm animals from needless harm while growing support for humane, sustainable agriculture.

    • While I appreciate you jumping in to bolster HSUS’s apparent nobility and thoughtfulness in animal care, the problem is, Mrs./Ms Tolly, is that your statement goes directly against what the HSUS unstated goal has been for some time: to get rid of farmed animals. I directly butt heads with many animal rights people because I “keep” farm animals. Your company sells itself as a shelter organization and yet almost no (1/2 of 1%) of your funds go to animals.

      I would love it if the world would look at my farm, it’s sustainability, it’s anti-cruelty and the fact that we eat what we produce while keeping healthy happy animals. That can be done on a large or small scale.

      I don’t trust HSUS to scoop manure while they’re standing in it. When you truly stand for all animals and do it without holding back 99% of your funds, then I will listen.

      Until then, keep your trumpets to yourself and go save the lives of the animals you are euthanizing in your own shelters.

      We don’t need more voices in the mix. We need to enforce the laws that stand and to reduce the loopholes that lets huge CAFO farms get away with what they do and to educate people. So, HSUS, where was your huge voice in the GMO arena where it could have helped eliminate CAFOs by restricting the use of GMO feed to human food animals? How about supporting local grown? How about supporting and being an active voice for Grass Fed, for all the sustainable animal food places all over the country and helping change farming laws so reflect that? How about being an active voice for the small farmer?

      Show me that… and I’ll buy into the HSUS mantra. Until then, you are just noise that I mute between the shows.

      • Annie, you are correct that HSUS shares less than 0.5 percent of it’s fraudulently raised annual fortune with pet shelters. I would like to clarify that HSUS does not run any pet shelters whatsoever.

        HSUS raises money for HSUS. HSUS raises money for HSUS under different names: HSUS, Humane Society International, the Fund for Animals, Doris Day Animal League, Wildlife Land Trust, South Florida Wildlife Center, and more. Only the very worst charities do that.

        A few years after his promotion to CEO, Wayne Pacelle told the Chronicle of Philanthropy that he wanted to increase HSUS’s assets to $500 million. How sick is that? Very sick, but also very instructive in terms of how HSUS has been operating in recent years. Like raising money under different names.

        An important example of how Pacelle is working to reach his Mafia–style quota by any means necessary is HSUS’s behavior after big disasters like Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy: Red Cross-style media and fundraising campaigns – then lowballing and burying (in the general budget) a sizable chunk of the money raised. Most despicable of all, HSUS inserts a disclaimer on their donation page that allows them to use the Katrina/Sandy donations for “future disasters,” implying that HSUS is some kind of Red Cross for animals. Nothing could be further from the truth.

        (edited for length and relevance – cz)

  2. Holly,

    Thank you for your well written comment of the HSUS latest scheme to trick the public and those who are naive. I should remind you the HSUS stated goals are
    to ” Eliminate all use of animals in Agriculture”, That my friend has not Changed…

    You have criminally bought your way in With the Sec of Agriculture with hundreds of thousands of dollars in (Gifts) you also have bought and Paid for Jay Nixon in Missouri as well as others in the executive branch. Shameful our politicians “public servants” can be bought so easily.

    The HSUS has adopted the old Communist Party tactics, to gain power, being buy those you can… plead common ground (Like you are doing now) then when the true enemies of Communism (HSUS) would appear they would have a night of long knives and kill them.

    You see there are other people who study politics and methods besides you people.

    We are hopeful your leader will soon find himself in jail from the RICO charges he is facing “Paying off a witness”. the Evidence checks with his signature as reported publicly.. Perhaps you will be able to join him as well.

    Your organization has been charged with fraud in numerous states and violate your 501 status daily. So write all the convincing letters you wish.

    We have your number and will not allow you or your co workers (Comrades) to move forward with your stated goal of elimination of Agriculture in America.

    And by the way this is on topic. There is No Common ground, no place at the Table for the HSUS in our business.

    The more people that understand this the better.

  3. I may be a cynic, but does it not strike anyone odd that Vilsack made this statement after H$U$ sued USDA? After Vilsack was sued by H$U$?

    AND do y’all know that H$U$ gets tax dollars (yes, our hard-earned cash) for filing lawsuits? Even if they are thrown out? (see http://thinkingafield.org/2011/09/hsus-in-your-pocket.html)

    I just shake my head. They sucker in people with sad-eyed cats and dogs (hey, I can make my dogs look sad-eyed if I show them a piece of steak and then take it away) and claim their $19 will help shelter pets…and then sue the Government. Go figure.

    MOST of the H$U$-driven legislation does not even ADDRESS animal welfare. It addresses numbers. Of animals. Ranchers – seriously – do you want this?

    • And JUST NOW, H$U$ releases a statement indicating that they have created a Responsible Horse Breeders Council. They tried this with dog breeders as well. Does anyone but me see the eventuality that, if USDA continues to sleep with H$U$, it will be incumbent upon breeders of ANY animal to have the H$U$ “stamp of approval?”

  4. HSUS leaders like to bring up the “agreement” between HSUS and the United Egg Producers, as if these two groups have the power to set agriculture policy. All that happened is UEP’s Chad Gregory approached Wayne Pacelle with a deal that would benefit both organizations’ bottom lines, get Wayne his heroin (positive publicity) and his oxygen (fundraising ops). The agreement (to seek hen cage legislation) was opposed by some of the most respected animal groups, and died in Congress. If Tom Vilsack thinks that is some kind of template for future discussions, he is very misguided. Don’t believe the HSUS hype and UEP spin.

    Speaking of agreements, will HSUS follow the ASPCA’s lead and make a settlement deal with Feld Entertainment? Enquiring minds want to know.

  5. I personally know many cockfighters and have been going to the cockfights since I was 14 years old (over 30 years) and the description above is the most honest description of the majority of cockfighters that I have ever seen in print.

    This then in reality sounds like this sociology study is describing a typical rural farmer or rancher and in reality that is exactly who the gamecock owners are. Our livestock just happens to be gamecocks instead of beef cattle and the method of harvest of gamecocks differs from the method of harvest of a steer but then again so does the method of harvest of a goat.

    Maybe we should send Law Enforcement Officers out and create situations where we may potentially kill those despicable twisted goat killing proponents of the goat murder industry, you know those vile “farmers and ranchers” that are raising and harvesting goats to earn a living and feed their families in rural America.

    As the truth of the HSUS agenda is being exposed to more and more people Wayne Pacelle is now stating that he wants to “work with the animal agriculture industries and prefers compromise to conflict”. He goes on to say: “We are looking for a new way forward,” Pacelle said. “Instead of endless campaigning or conflict with political adversaries, we now want to forge solutions that produce tangible and meaningful outcomes for animals. And that means sitting down with people who see the world differently than we do, even sitting down with industries that we’ve had deep disagreements with in the past.”

    Let me assist Wayne in fully understanding what he supports: sending Law Enforcement Officers out to point guns at rural Americans to force these rural farmers and ranchers into compliance with the UN Agenda 21 policies and Wayne’s opinion regarding our livestock.

    I’d like to know where Wayne thinks he has any ownership rights vested in “my property” (livestock) that would enable him and his corrupt organization to sway legislators to grant rights to my livestock and then dictate to me what my constitutionally protected property rights are as he attempts to criminalize and destroy my ability to harvest my livestock, earn a living and provide for my family in rural America?

    If that is “compromise” in Wayne Pacelle’s book then the farmers and ranchers across America must realize that Wayne Pacelle’s entire organization (the HSUS) is a privately owned business that’s sole mission and money making efforts are designed to infringe upon, slowly strip away and ultimately remove the property rights of rural farmers and ranchers to their livestock and the land which they own.

    And that is the “United Nations Agenda 21 Wildlands Project” and the “Socialist One World Government proponents’ intentions and plan being carried out by the HSUS.

    In truth there is no compromise and no middle ground when dealing with the HSUS and their agenda, our state and federal legislators are either supporting our constitutional rights, property rights and our animal agriculture industries and our American way of life or they are supporting the HSUS and the socialist agenda of the United Nations Agenda 21.

    Thank you,
    U.S. Army ret SFC B.L. Cozad Jr

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  7. And if the Humane Society of the United States had not donated $750,000 in negative ads against the encumbent in Iowa running against Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack’s wife–what support would HSUS be getting from the Us Dept. of Agriculture?

    And if the payment signed by Wayne Pacelle to insider Tom Rider in the Feld Ringling Brothers case had not been determined by the judge to render unreliable and misleading information, would ASPCA be paying $9.3 Million in fines? All of this money is being tossed around from the donations of unsuspecting Americans who have been misled into believing that they are saving an animal. The truth of the matter is that they are paying your pension and your attorneys for writing up frivolous and misleading lawsuits and frivolous and misleading bills on the state level throughout the country that needlessly take up government time and produce virtually no good.