HSUS Drops Ballot Initiative in Ohio

Cindy Zimmerman

The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) has reached an agreement with Ohio Governor Ted Strickland and state agricultural leaders to drop a proposed animal rights ballot initiative.

OH HSUSAt a hastily called press conference on Wednesday afternoon, Governor Stickland stood with Ohio Farm Bureau executive vice president Jack Fisher and HSUS CEO Wayne Pacelle to make the announcement, which amounts to a truce between the aggressive animal rights group and Ohio’s animal agriculture industry. “This agreement represents a joint effort to find common ground,” said Strickland. “What we have concluded is something that is good for Ohio agriculture and will be good for animal welfare in our state.”

Under the agreement, HSUS will work with the Ohio Livestock Care Standards Board and has received some concessions from the animal agriculture industry in exchange. Those concessions include a ban on veal crates by 2017; a ban on new gestation crates in the state after Dec. 31, 2010 and a 15 year phase out period; and a moratorium on permits for new battery cage confinement facilities for laying hens. The agreement also includes restrictions on cockfighting, “puppy mills” and exotic animals.

Fisher thanked the rest of the Ohio agriculture industry for working together on the compromise. “We came to the table to represent all of us in Ohio the best way that we could,” Fisher said. “We think it recognizes the wishes of our voters last fall in that the Ohio Livestock Care Standards board will be able to fulfill its mission. We also think it brings some certainty to the business climate for our Ohio farmers. Not in total – but this is the best we could do for all of us.”

Pacelle had the longest opening statement for the press conference, in which he thanked all the commodity groups for “good faith discussions.” “We want animal welfare, but we live in the real world,” Pacelle said, noting that they had the 500,000 signatures needed to put the initiative on the ballot this fall. Interestingly, only HSUS had a press release on its website about the announcement by the time the press conference was underway. Even after it was over, neither the governor’s office nor Ohio Farm Bureau had yet posted a release.

UPDATE: Releases were posted by both Ohio governor and Ohio Farm Bureau later yesterday evening.

Listen to or download opening statements from all here: Ohio HSUS Agreement Press Conference

Comments 31

  1. JanA

    ….and I thought the animal care board was going to use logic and science……we will all see prices rise out of sight and that is just what HSUS in in hopes of….pushing that meat and eggs farther away from the table. I just hope that Ohio farmers will not be the loosers but the agenda of HSUS is to end all animal use….eventually.

  2. JanA

    ….and I thought the animal care board was going to use logic and science……we will all see prices rise out of sight and that is just what HSUS in in hopes of….pushing that meat and eggs farther away from the table. I just hope that Ohio farmers will not be the loosers but the agenda of HSUS is to end all animal use….eventually.

  3. bestuvall

    Suckered in again by animal rights .. when will people ever learn that there is NO benefit to negotiating with terrorists.. and that is exactly what happened.. CAVED IN . of course the HSUS had a press release.. they knew they would find NO resistance when push came to shove.. people are AFRAID of them.. why?/ I have no idea…there is NO “common ground” with animal rights people .. NONE.. OHIO BIG MISTAKE.. you can kiss your farmers goodbye.. if that is the “best” they could do.. then it is a sorry state of affairs in Ohio.. watch the HSUS crow about this.. and why.. MO’money.. Mo’ money..Mo’money.. the HSUS ultimate goal .. is NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS and NO PETS.. and Ohio walked right into the trap..
    as Churchill said:
    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  4. bestuvall

    Suckered in again by animal rights .. when will people ever learn that there is NO benefit to negotiating with terrorists.. and that is exactly what happened.. CAVED IN . of course the HSUS had a press release.. they knew they would find NO resistance when push came to shove.. people are AFRAID of them.. why?/ I have no idea…there is NO “common ground” with animal rights people .. NONE.. OHIO BIG MISTAKE.. you can kiss your farmers goodbye.. if that is the “best” they could do.. then it is a sorry state of affairs in Ohio.. watch the HSUS crow about this.. and why.. MO’money.. Mo’ money..Mo’money.. the HSUS ultimate goal .. is NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS and NO PETS.. and Ohio walked right into the trap..
    as Churchill said:
    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  5. bestuvall

    How does the Governor make a “deal’ with an organization that is a private one .. and a “charity” to boot.. located out of his state? Do you not have a constitution? don’t these measures need to pass in your legislature? Since when does the Governor have the ability to cut deals to keep measures off of the state ballot.. ?? Is your Governor a KING?? sounds like someone who does not need reelecting.. ( you do still have elections in Ohio right?)

  6. bestuvall

    How does the Governor make a “deal’ with an organization that is a private one .. and a “charity” to boot.. located out of his state? Do you not have a constitution? don’t these measures need to pass in your legislature? Since when does the Governor have the ability to cut deals to keep measures off of the state ballot.. ?? Is your Governor a KING?? sounds like someone who does not need reelecting.. ( you do still have elections in Ohio right?)

  7. alice

    all of you do realize.. the HSUS is NOT a government organization no matter what Pacelle tells you..your Gov is now a puppet of the HSUS..listen to this and listen to Wayne pull the strings.. remember that song “I’m Your Puppet”.. well sing it long and loud Ohio.. you have become the newest puppet state of the HSUS…as they work to remove animal husbandry from your state.. and your pets from your homes.. a sad sad day for Ohio..

  8. alice

    all of you do realize.. the HSUS is NOT a government organization no matter what Pacelle tells you..your Gov is now a puppet of the HSUS..listen to this and listen to Wayne pull the strings.. remember that song “I’m Your Puppet”.. well sing it long and loud Ohio.. you have become the newest puppet state of the HSUS…as they work to remove animal husbandry from your state.. and your pets from your homes.. a sad sad day for Ohio..

  9. Marty

    How disgusting that Ohio caved to the “animal rights” industry leader. I PREDICT–H$U$ will be back again *demanding more concessions* and wanting an even bigger role. H$U$ wants to control and destroy over time the human/animal bond, and our weak-spined legislators are bending over with heads in the sand saying, “kick me again”–and H$U$ will do that. You CANNOT compromise with the “animal rights” true believers–they will just incrementally peck you to death with legislation.

  10. Marty

    How disgusting that Ohio caved to the “animal rights” industry leader. I PREDICT–H$U$ will be back again *demanding more concessions* and wanting an even bigger role. H$U$ wants to control and destroy over time the human/animal bond, and our weak-spined legislators are bending over with heads in the sand saying, “kick me again”–and H$U$ will do that. You CANNOT compromise with the “animal rights” true believers–they will just incrementally peck you to death with legislation.

  11. kathy

    To JanA: Animals are living, breathing creatures, with various I.Q levels. When you step on your dog’s toe, it feels pain, just as your baby would feel pain. I came to Ohio to help collect signatures for the HSUS ballot. I talked to quite a few farmers. I was disturbed by the fact that the farmers kept referring to their farm animals as the”PRODUCT.” When I would attempt to discuss the cruel confinement issues, the response was ,”they are confined in these ways because it’s most ECONOMICAL.” Farmers had very cold, sterile attitudes toward the animals. One farmer actually said,”I don’t believe in cruelty to animals, I’m a farmer.” So much for LOGIC and SCIENCE!

  12. kathy

    To JanA: Animals are living, breathing creatures, with various I.Q levels. When you step on your dog’s toe, it feels pain, just as your baby would feel pain. I came to Ohio to help collect signatures for the HSUS ballot. I talked to quite a few farmers. I was disturbed by the fact that the farmers kept referring to their farm animals as the”PRODUCT.” When I would attempt to discuss the cruel confinement issues, the response was ,”they are confined in these ways because it’s most ECONOMICAL.” Farmers had very cold, sterile attitudes toward the animals. One farmer actually said,”I don’t believe in cruelty to animals, I’m a farmer.” So much for LOGIC and SCIENCE!

  13. Tom

    This could be the worst deal yet for animal owners yet unless we can either compel this “Livestock Care Standards Board” to renege on this diabolical deal or eliminate this board entirely. The HSUS won against Ohio’s state government by intimidation.

    How could they yet fail to know that the HSUS is a lying, swindling animal rights organization? It has even been named as a supporter of terrorism. Ohio should be fighting these people tooth and nail. Compromise with these people means that they will be back for more.

    And who is going to do what to “restrict” exotic animals and what business does the HSUS have trying to dictate this to anyone? Had to find someone to throw under the bus, did you? If you want to throw someone under the bus, throw that greasy pinstriped Chicago mobster under the bus and drive it back and forth over the nasty so and so.

  14. Tom

    This could be the worst deal yet for animal owners yet unless we can either compel this “Livestock Care Standards Board” to renege on this diabolical deal or eliminate this board entirely. The HSUS won against Ohio’s state government by intimidation.

    How could they yet fail to know that the HSUS is a lying, swindling animal rights organization? It has even been named as a supporter of terrorism. Ohio should be fighting these people tooth and nail. Compromise with these people means that they will be back for more.

    And who is going to do what to “restrict” exotic animals and what business does the HSUS have trying to dictate this to anyone? Had to find someone to throw under the bus, did you? If you want to throw someone under the bus, throw that greasy pinstriped Chicago mobster under the bus and drive it back and forth over the nasty so and so.

  15. Tom

    This may turn out to be the worst thing that the agriculture industry in Ohio has ever done to itself. You do not appease people like the HSUS. The only right thing to do to them is to destroy them.

  16. Tom

    This may turn out to be the worst thing that the agriculture industry in Ohio has ever done to itself. You do not appease people like the HSUS. The only right thing to do to them is to destroy them.

  17. Elaine

    I don’t think Ohio Ag caved. 1) U.S. veal producers’ association had already planned to phase out veal crates by 2017, so that was going to happen (by ag’s decision) anyway, and 2) the moratorium on new battery cage poultry operations is a decison by the governor, which OPA agreed to. If Ohio elects a new governor in Nov. that decision can be overturned immediately. There is no law saying defintely no more cages, etc. 3)This decision affects gestation crates for hogs (not farrowing crates) and fifteen years from now we may have come up with a better way to care for pregnant sows – a lot can happen in 15 years! As for the puppy mills and exotic animal stuff, its just that, stuffing. If you listened to the press conference or read the releases, there really isn’t any thing “hard and fast” there – just recommendations or supporting statements. Before everyone acusses Ohio Ag of selling out, think about those things. No HSUS is not a governmental organization, but they are a very strong (well-funded) lobbying organization. This agreement will prevent another hugely expensive ballot issue (which Ohio just had last year) and allow the OLCSB and the commodity organizations to focus on more important issues than whether or not HSUS is going to force another ballot issue. Ohio Ag will keep up their end of the bargain, lets just hope HSUS will, too (they seemed so happy with it, they should)

  18. Elaine

    I don’t think Ohio Ag caved. 1) U.S. veal producers’ association had already planned to phase out veal crates by 2017, so that was going to happen (by ag’s decision) anyway, and 2) the moratorium on new battery cage poultry operations is a decison by the governor, which OPA agreed to. If Ohio elects a new governor in Nov. that decision can be overturned immediately. There is no law saying defintely no more cages, etc. 3)This decision affects gestation crates for hogs (not farrowing crates) and fifteen years from now we may have come up with a better way to care for pregnant sows – a lot can happen in 15 years! As for the puppy mills and exotic animal stuff, its just that, stuffing. If you listened to the press conference or read the releases, there really isn’t any thing “hard and fast” there – just recommendations or supporting statements. Before everyone acusses Ohio Ag of selling out, think about those things. No HSUS is not a governmental organization, but they are a very strong (well-funded) lobbying organization. This agreement will prevent another hugely expensive ballot issue (which Ohio just had last year) and allow the OLCSB and the commodity organizations to focus on more important issues than whether or not HSUS is going to force another ballot issue. Ohio Ag will keep up their end of the bargain, lets just hope HSUS will, too (they seemed so happy with it, they should)

  19. Tom

    Someone had better be aware that doing this encourages the terrorists. The animal rights terrorists got worse in Iowa after they got their exotic animal bill passed, then they went after regulations that make things nearly impossible for dog breeders, and they are putting their own people in animal control and everywhere else they can cause trouble. Iowa has also had to go underground with animal testing, literally.

    When you appease terrorists and bullies they get worse. People who appease terrorists and bullies do not deserve better than that, either.

  20. Tom

    Someone had better be aware that doing this encourages the terrorists. The animal rights terrorists got worse in Iowa after they got their exotic animal bill passed, then they went after regulations that make things nearly impossible for dog breeders, and they are putting their own people in animal control and everywhere else they can cause trouble. Iowa has also had to go underground with animal testing, literally.

    When you appease terrorists and bullies they get worse. People who appease terrorists and bullies do not deserve better than that, either.

  21. Marty

    Make a deal with the Devil and you change, the Devil doesn’t. H$U$ now has a foothold in Ohio that they should never have been given. They can crow and posture like the bullies they are. Insofar as those who compromised, wait for the other shoe to drop–Ohio animal owners won’t like it.

    Insofar as animals being a PRODUCT, yes they are if raised commercially, and making a profit is NOT a bad thing–in fact, it’s necessary to stay in business. That doesn’t mean less care, and in fact, if you have a product to sell, are you going to damage it and thus dimiknish or destroy its value? No.

  22. Marty

    Make a deal with the Devil and you change, the Devil doesn’t. H$U$ now has a foothold in Ohio that they should never have been given. They can crow and posture like the bullies they are. Insofar as those who compromised, wait for the other shoe to drop–Ohio animal owners won’t like it.

    Insofar as animals being a PRODUCT, yes they are if raised commercially, and making a profit is NOT a bad thing–in fact, it’s necessary to stay in business. That doesn’t mean less care, and in fact, if you have a product to sell, are you going to damage it and thus dimiknish or destroy its value? No.

  23. alice

    Kathy says it all.. she “came to Ohio”.. Paid by ht HSUS?? probably.. many signature gatherers were paid.. and offered PRIZES for the most signatures.. Kathy.. a baby is NOT the same as a dog.. so much for logic and science is right..

  24. alice

    Kathy says it all.. she “came to Ohio”.. Paid by ht HSUS?? probably.. many signature gatherers were paid.. and offered PRIZES for the most signatures.. Kathy.. a baby is NOT the same as a dog.. so much for logic and science is right..

  25. sue ann

    Elaine.. you are DREAMING.. HSUS has NEVER “held up their end of the bargain”.. they are incrementalists.. biting off a bit of the apple at a time.. they are in NO hurry.. each inch forward is another inch toward the goal of NO ANIMALS.. they do not care how long it takes.. they are a CULT..
    as for throwing pet animal breeders under the bus.. yes they did…when the next ‘puppy mill” bill comes around the HSUS will be there.. whispering in the ear.. and lining the pockets.. of every legislator.. “remember what you promised… the only way to get rid of these cultists is to STOP SENDING THEM MONEY.. they thrive in the element of greed and lies.. and money greases the wheels….
    Friends DON’T Let Friends Donate To the HSUS

  26. sue ann

    Elaine.. you are DREAMING.. HSUS has NEVER “held up their end of the bargain”.. they are incrementalists.. biting off a bit of the apple at a time.. they are in NO hurry.. each inch forward is another inch toward the goal of NO ANIMALS.. they do not care how long it takes.. they are a CULT..
    as for throwing pet animal breeders under the bus.. yes they did…when the next ‘puppy mill” bill comes around the HSUS will be there.. whispering in the ear.. and lining the pockets.. of every legislator.. “remember what you promised… the only way to get rid of these cultists is to STOP SENDING THEM MONEY.. they thrive in the element of greed and lies.. and money greases the wheels….
    Friends DON’T Let Friends Donate To the HSUS

  27. Tom

    Think about it. They swindled Ohio into trading almost everything that the HSUS wants for one thing that the HSUS wants, and none of that is anything that the HSUS is entitled to.

  28. Tom

    Think about it. They swindled Ohio into trading almost everything that the HSUS wants for one thing that the HSUS wants, and none of that is anything that the HSUS is entitled to.

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Comments 31

  1. JanA

    ….and I thought the animal care board was going to use logic and science……we will all see prices rise out of sight and that is just what HSUS in in hopes of….pushing that meat and eggs farther away from the table. I just hope that Ohio farmers will not be the loosers but the agenda of HSUS is to end all animal use….eventually.

  2. JanA

    ….and I thought the animal care board was going to use logic and science……we will all see prices rise out of sight and that is just what HSUS in in hopes of….pushing that meat and eggs farther away from the table. I just hope that Ohio farmers will not be the loosers but the agenda of HSUS is to end all animal use….eventually.

  3. bestuvall

    Suckered in again by animal rights .. when will people ever learn that there is NO benefit to negotiating with terrorists.. and that is exactly what happened.. CAVED IN . of course the HSUS had a press release.. they knew they would find NO resistance when push came to shove.. people are AFRAID of them.. why?/ I have no idea…there is NO “common ground” with animal rights people .. NONE.. OHIO BIG MISTAKE.. you can kiss your farmers goodbye.. if that is the “best” they could do.. then it is a sorry state of affairs in Ohio.. watch the HSUS crow about this.. and why.. MO’money.. Mo’ money..Mo’money.. the HSUS ultimate goal .. is NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS and NO PETS.. and Ohio walked right into the trap..
    as Churchill said:
    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  4. bestuvall

    Suckered in again by animal rights .. when will people ever learn that there is NO benefit to negotiating with terrorists.. and that is exactly what happened.. CAVED IN . of course the HSUS had a press release.. they knew they would find NO resistance when push came to shove.. people are AFRAID of them.. why?/ I have no idea…there is NO “common ground” with animal rights people .. NONE.. OHIO BIG MISTAKE.. you can kiss your farmers goodbye.. if that is the “best” they could do.. then it is a sorry state of affairs in Ohio.. watch the HSUS crow about this.. and why.. MO’money.. Mo’ money..Mo’money.. the HSUS ultimate goal .. is NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS and NO PETS.. and Ohio walked right into the trap..
    as Churchill said:
    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  5. bestuvall

    How does the Governor make a “deal’ with an organization that is a private one .. and a “charity” to boot.. located out of his state? Do you not have a constitution? don’t these measures need to pass in your legislature? Since when does the Governor have the ability to cut deals to keep measures off of the state ballot.. ?? Is your Governor a KING?? sounds like someone who does not need reelecting.. ( you do still have elections in Ohio right?)

  6. bestuvall

    How does the Governor make a “deal’ with an organization that is a private one .. and a “charity” to boot.. located out of his state? Do you not have a constitution? don’t these measures need to pass in your legislature? Since when does the Governor have the ability to cut deals to keep measures off of the state ballot.. ?? Is your Governor a KING?? sounds like someone who does not need reelecting.. ( you do still have elections in Ohio right?)

  7. alice

    all of you do realize.. the HSUS is NOT a government organization no matter what Pacelle tells you..your Gov is now a puppet of the HSUS..listen to this and listen to Wayne pull the strings.. remember that song “I’m Your Puppet”.. well sing it long and loud Ohio.. you have become the newest puppet state of the HSUS…as they work to remove animal husbandry from your state.. and your pets from your homes.. a sad sad day for Ohio..

  8. alice

    all of you do realize.. the HSUS is NOT a government organization no matter what Pacelle tells you..your Gov is now a puppet of the HSUS..listen to this and listen to Wayne pull the strings.. remember that song “I’m Your Puppet”.. well sing it long and loud Ohio.. you have become the newest puppet state of the HSUS…as they work to remove animal husbandry from your state.. and your pets from your homes.. a sad sad day for Ohio..

  9. Marty

    How disgusting that Ohio caved to the “animal rights” industry leader. I PREDICT–H$U$ will be back again *demanding more concessions* and wanting an even bigger role. H$U$ wants to control and destroy over time the human/animal bond, and our weak-spined legislators are bending over with heads in the sand saying, “kick me again”–and H$U$ will do that. You CANNOT compromise with the “animal rights” true believers–they will just incrementally peck you to death with legislation.

  10. Marty

    How disgusting that Ohio caved to the “animal rights” industry leader. I PREDICT–H$U$ will be back again *demanding more concessions* and wanting an even bigger role. H$U$ wants to control and destroy over time the human/animal bond, and our weak-spined legislators are bending over with heads in the sand saying, “kick me again”–and H$U$ will do that. You CANNOT compromise with the “animal rights” true believers–they will just incrementally peck you to death with legislation.

  11. kathy

    To JanA: Animals are living, breathing creatures, with various I.Q levels. When you step on your dog’s toe, it feels pain, just as your baby would feel pain. I came to Ohio to help collect signatures for the HSUS ballot. I talked to quite a few farmers. I was disturbed by the fact that the farmers kept referring to their farm animals as the”PRODUCT.” When I would attempt to discuss the cruel confinement issues, the response was ,”they are confined in these ways because it’s most ECONOMICAL.” Farmers had very cold, sterile attitudes toward the animals. One farmer actually said,”I don’t believe in cruelty to animals, I’m a farmer.” So much for LOGIC and SCIENCE!

  12. kathy

    To JanA: Animals are living, breathing creatures, with various I.Q levels. When you step on your dog’s toe, it feels pain, just as your baby would feel pain. I came to Ohio to help collect signatures for the HSUS ballot. I talked to quite a few farmers. I was disturbed by the fact that the farmers kept referring to their farm animals as the”PRODUCT.” When I would attempt to discuss the cruel confinement issues, the response was ,”they are confined in these ways because it’s most ECONOMICAL.” Farmers had very cold, sterile attitudes toward the animals. One farmer actually said,”I don’t believe in cruelty to animals, I’m a farmer.” So much for LOGIC and SCIENCE!

  13. Tom

    This could be the worst deal yet for animal owners yet unless we can either compel this “Livestock Care Standards Board” to renege on this diabolical deal or eliminate this board entirely. The HSUS won against Ohio’s state government by intimidation.

    How could they yet fail to know that the HSUS is a lying, swindling animal rights organization? It has even been named as a supporter of terrorism. Ohio should be fighting these people tooth and nail. Compromise with these people means that they will be back for more.

    And who is going to do what to “restrict” exotic animals and what business does the HSUS have trying to dictate this to anyone? Had to find someone to throw under the bus, did you? If you want to throw someone under the bus, throw that greasy pinstriped Chicago mobster under the bus and drive it back and forth over the nasty so and so.

  14. Tom

    This could be the worst deal yet for animal owners yet unless we can either compel this “Livestock Care Standards Board” to renege on this diabolical deal or eliminate this board entirely. The HSUS won against Ohio’s state government by intimidation.

    How could they yet fail to know that the HSUS is a lying, swindling animal rights organization? It has even been named as a supporter of terrorism. Ohio should be fighting these people tooth and nail. Compromise with these people means that they will be back for more.

    And who is going to do what to “restrict” exotic animals and what business does the HSUS have trying to dictate this to anyone? Had to find someone to throw under the bus, did you? If you want to throw someone under the bus, throw that greasy pinstriped Chicago mobster under the bus and drive it back and forth over the nasty so and so.

  15. Tom

    This may turn out to be the worst thing that the agriculture industry in Ohio has ever done to itself. You do not appease people like the HSUS. The only right thing to do to them is to destroy them.

  16. Tom

    This may turn out to be the worst thing that the agriculture industry in Ohio has ever done to itself. You do not appease people like the HSUS. The only right thing to do to them is to destroy them.

  17. Elaine

    I don’t think Ohio Ag caved. 1) U.S. veal producers’ association had already planned to phase out veal crates by 2017, so that was going to happen (by ag’s decision) anyway, and 2) the moratorium on new battery cage poultry operations is a decison by the governor, which OPA agreed to. If Ohio elects a new governor in Nov. that decision can be overturned immediately. There is no law saying defintely no more cages, etc. 3)This decision affects gestation crates for hogs (not farrowing crates) and fifteen years from now we may have come up with a better way to care for pregnant sows – a lot can happen in 15 years! As for the puppy mills and exotic animal stuff, its just that, stuffing. If you listened to the press conference or read the releases, there really isn’t any thing “hard and fast” there – just recommendations or supporting statements. Before everyone acusses Ohio Ag of selling out, think about those things. No HSUS is not a governmental organization, but they are a very strong (well-funded) lobbying organization. This agreement will prevent another hugely expensive ballot issue (which Ohio just had last year) and allow the OLCSB and the commodity organizations to focus on more important issues than whether or not HSUS is going to force another ballot issue. Ohio Ag will keep up their end of the bargain, lets just hope HSUS will, too (they seemed so happy with it, they should)

  18. Elaine

    I don’t think Ohio Ag caved. 1) U.S. veal producers’ association had already planned to phase out veal crates by 2017, so that was going to happen (by ag’s decision) anyway, and 2) the moratorium on new battery cage poultry operations is a decison by the governor, which OPA agreed to. If Ohio elects a new governor in Nov. that decision can be overturned immediately. There is no law saying defintely no more cages, etc. 3)This decision affects gestation crates for hogs (not farrowing crates) and fifteen years from now we may have come up with a better way to care for pregnant sows – a lot can happen in 15 years! As for the puppy mills and exotic animal stuff, its just that, stuffing. If you listened to the press conference or read the releases, there really isn’t any thing “hard and fast” there – just recommendations or supporting statements. Before everyone acusses Ohio Ag of selling out, think about those things. No HSUS is not a governmental organization, but they are a very strong (well-funded) lobbying organization. This agreement will prevent another hugely expensive ballot issue (which Ohio just had last year) and allow the OLCSB and the commodity organizations to focus on more important issues than whether or not HSUS is going to force another ballot issue. Ohio Ag will keep up their end of the bargain, lets just hope HSUS will, too (they seemed so happy with it, they should)

  19. Tom

    Someone had better be aware that doing this encourages the terrorists. The animal rights terrorists got worse in Iowa after they got their exotic animal bill passed, then they went after regulations that make things nearly impossible for dog breeders, and they are putting their own people in animal control and everywhere else they can cause trouble. Iowa has also had to go underground with animal testing, literally.

    When you appease terrorists and bullies they get worse. People who appease terrorists and bullies do not deserve better than that, either.

  20. Tom

    Someone had better be aware that doing this encourages the terrorists. The animal rights terrorists got worse in Iowa after they got their exotic animal bill passed, then they went after regulations that make things nearly impossible for dog breeders, and they are putting their own people in animal control and everywhere else they can cause trouble. Iowa has also had to go underground with animal testing, literally.

    When you appease terrorists and bullies they get worse. People who appease terrorists and bullies do not deserve better than that, either.

  21. Marty

    Make a deal with the Devil and you change, the Devil doesn’t. H$U$ now has a foothold in Ohio that they should never have been given. They can crow and posture like the bullies they are. Insofar as those who compromised, wait for the other shoe to drop–Ohio animal owners won’t like it.

    Insofar as animals being a PRODUCT, yes they are if raised commercially, and making a profit is NOT a bad thing–in fact, it’s necessary to stay in business. That doesn’t mean less care, and in fact, if you have a product to sell, are you going to damage it and thus dimiknish or destroy its value? No.

  22. Marty

    Make a deal with the Devil and you change, the Devil doesn’t. H$U$ now has a foothold in Ohio that they should never have been given. They can crow and posture like the bullies they are. Insofar as those who compromised, wait for the other shoe to drop–Ohio animal owners won’t like it.

    Insofar as animals being a PRODUCT, yes they are if raised commercially, and making a profit is NOT a bad thing–in fact, it’s necessary to stay in business. That doesn’t mean less care, and in fact, if you have a product to sell, are you going to damage it and thus dimiknish or destroy its value? No.

  23. alice

    Kathy says it all.. she “came to Ohio”.. Paid by ht HSUS?? probably.. many signature gatherers were paid.. and offered PRIZES for the most signatures.. Kathy.. a baby is NOT the same as a dog.. so much for logic and science is right..

  24. alice

    Kathy says it all.. she “came to Ohio”.. Paid by ht HSUS?? probably.. many signature gatherers were paid.. and offered PRIZES for the most signatures.. Kathy.. a baby is NOT the same as a dog.. so much for logic and science is right..

  25. sue ann

    Elaine.. you are DREAMING.. HSUS has NEVER “held up their end of the bargain”.. they are incrementalists.. biting off a bit of the apple at a time.. they are in NO hurry.. each inch forward is another inch toward the goal of NO ANIMALS.. they do not care how long it takes.. they are a CULT..
    as for throwing pet animal breeders under the bus.. yes they did…when the next ‘puppy mill” bill comes around the HSUS will be there.. whispering in the ear.. and lining the pockets.. of every legislator.. “remember what you promised… the only way to get rid of these cultists is to STOP SENDING THEM MONEY.. they thrive in the element of greed and lies.. and money greases the wheels….
    Friends DON’T Let Friends Donate To the HSUS

  26. sue ann

    Elaine.. you are DREAMING.. HSUS has NEVER “held up their end of the bargain”.. they are incrementalists.. biting off a bit of the apple at a time.. they are in NO hurry.. each inch forward is another inch toward the goal of NO ANIMALS.. they do not care how long it takes.. they are a CULT..
    as for throwing pet animal breeders under the bus.. yes they did…when the next ‘puppy mill” bill comes around the HSUS will be there.. whispering in the ear.. and lining the pockets.. of every legislator.. “remember what you promised… the only way to get rid of these cultists is to STOP SENDING THEM MONEY.. they thrive in the element of greed and lies.. and money greases the wheels….
    Friends DON’T Let Friends Donate To the HSUS

  27. Tom

    Think about it. They swindled Ohio into trading almost everything that the HSUS wants for one thing that the HSUS wants, and none of that is anything that the HSUS is entitled to.

  28. Tom

    Think about it. They swindled Ohio into trading almost everything that the HSUS wants for one thing that the HSUS wants, and none of that is anything that the HSUS is entitled to.

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